car repair

Feb. 10th, 2020 09:03 am
asakiyume: (black crow on a red ground)
[personal profile] asakiyume
Our beloved mechanic told us the cheapest way to fix the hole in the flex pipe of Wakanomori's cute little car would be to get a patch welded to it, and he recommended a place to do it. "I've sent lots of people there," he said.

So today, early, we were set to drive there. "I forget exactly where it is," said Waka. "But you lead the way."

"It's right near where we used to live," I said.

"Oh ... that place? I thought it was the other place [a stone's throw from this place], where you got that pot lid welded, and where we had that other car work done."

"Nope--we've never been to this place."

Uneasy sounds from Wakanomori.

"But beloved mechanic is recommending it," I said. "So I'm sure it's fine."


So we get there, walk in, and the first thing that jumps out at both of us are THE TRUMP BUMPER STICKERS LINING THE WALL. Next is the Trump baseball cap one of the guys behind the counter is wearing. On a bulletin board, a photocopied sheet that says, "If this is a racist symbol [picture of confederate flag], then so are these [pictures of black lives matter poster, etc.]"

"Hi," says the Trump-cap-wearing man, with a friendly smile. "Can I help you?"

"Yes," I said. "I called last week about a hole in my husband's exhaust? You were going to take a look and then maybe do it today or else we'd schedule a different day."

"Oh yeah; I remember. Why don't we put it on the lift and take a look."

While they're looking at the car, the other guy behind the counter makes a call to a metalworks shop. "Hi, yeah, can you take a look at the design I just faxed over to you? Yeah, a guy wants to make two of those. I was thinking maybe aluminum. You could maybe do it by cutting out hearts?"

"A client wants to make giant three-leafed clovers for the wall of his business," explains our man with the Trump cap. "You know, because he's Irish?" I realize he means shamrocks, which explains why the guy on the phone is suggesting heart shapes.

"Where's the metalworking place?" I ask.

"Up in Bernardston. It's a father-and son team. They have all the tools for cutting and stamping."

"Makes me want to design something out of metal," I say.

"Right?" he says, and laughs.

In the end they give us an estimate, and because they're busy today, we agree to come back later in the week, and we leave. Waka has to hurry off to work, so we don't get to unpack the whole experience at all--just exchange significant looks.

My thoughts as I drive home are all over the place, including, but by no means limited to (I mean, I started writing more, but edited down) the following:

--So maybe that's why there are two welding shops so close together--to cater do clientele with different political leanings
--There are lots of students, including international students, living in the area of that welding shop; would those guys be polite and affable to a foreign student as they were to us? How about a person of color? [ETA: it's not a rhetorical question. Maybe they would be.]
--Waka and I can choose not to reveal our political views to the people at the shop, but you can't choose not to reveal your melanin.

It's not like there aren't plenty of other businesses signaling opposite-direction politics. In Massachusetts, and near a college, things going the other direction are much more common. To pick a flagrant example, there's a copy shop I use a lot, Collective Copies, that has all kinds of progressive posters up, like this one or this one.

And many businesses try to present neutrally. I have thoughts about all this, but they're incoherent and don't have an and in conclusion. so I'll just stop abruptly here.

Date: 2020-02-10 03:37 pm (UTC)
lilysea: Serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
The we the people posters are lovely, for their art/design as well as their political sentiment.

Date: 2020-02-10 04:04 pm (UTC)
cmcmck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cmcmck
Ewww! in all sorts of ways!

Date: 2020-02-10 05:13 pm (UTC)
cmcmck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cmcmck
I'm just thinking of walking into a place where someone was wearing a pro bojo hat.......

Date: 2020-02-10 04:22 pm (UTC)
sartorias: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
I love the posters in the copy shop.

This is the first time, in all my long life, that I've thought about who people voted for, or are for, when I encounter them. And my gut reaction is distrust and even contempt for Trump voters. I have to fight that, but it's a conscious effort, and not altogether successful as I find myself wanting to avoid them for that, and not for anything they've done.

Date: 2020-02-10 05:12 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, same. -- And then it also feels like, hearing about stuff like Trumpty's new budget cutting all kinds of social services, that the people who voted for him are doing stuff because they enabled this asshole....altho they probably didn't mean it to get this bad. I guess.

Date: 2020-02-10 05:50 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Ohh now I see! That's a good point, yes. //has not had enough coffee

Date: 2020-02-10 07:38 pm (UTC)
minoanmiss: A detail of the Ladies in Blue fresco (Lady in Blue)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
I don't want to go into a personal encounter bringing the bad myself.

*beams at you*

More on this and the whole thing in a bit.

Date: 2020-02-10 07:37 pm (UTC)
minoanmiss: Minoan girl lineart by me (Minoan chippie)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
I dunno, voting for Trump is a thing they have each chosen to do. With all it entails.

Date: 2020-02-10 04:57 pm (UTC)
sonia: Quilted wall-hanging (Default)
From: [personal profile] sonia
I'm bi, and a child of immigrants. Both happen to be invisible at the moment, but I'm not interested in doing business with people who have contempt for my lgbtqia and immigrant fellow humans (when I have an alternative). I don't practice tolerance of intolerance.

ETA: Although I do look Jewish, and I think sometimes people do discriminate on that basis. Hard to prove of course. In any case, I do not feel safe in places that loudly advertise their intolerance.
Edited Date: 2020-02-10 04:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2020-02-10 05:11 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
So we get there, walk in, and the first thing that jumps out at both of us are THE TRUMP BUMPER STICKERS LINING THE WALL. Next is the Trump baseball cap one of the guys behind the counter is wearing. On a bulletin board, a photocopied sheet that says, "If this is a racist symbol [picture of confederate flag], then so are these [pictures of black lives matter poster, etc.]"

OH MY JESUS I probably would have blurted something like "Wrong number!" and fled.

Date: 2020-02-10 07:42 pm (UTC)
minoanmiss: Nubian girl with dubious facial expression (dubious Nubian girl)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
That sounds unfun. *hugs you*

So above you said "I don't want to go into a personal encounter bringing the bad myself." and this relates to my personal experience of such places when I've been stuck dealing with them.

Because, yeah, I would not trust those mechanics whether or not they treated me well to my melanin-rich face (not least because I've experienced being treated well to my face and getting a substandard product), and yet, when dealing with such situations I know I have to go in with wide eyes and a sweet smile looking like I expect nothing but the best so that I give no one any excuse to the absolute best of my ability to claim that I "started it" by behaving "badly" in their eyes.

I bet those dudes think they are an Oppressed Minority out in bluish-purple Massachusetts. Feh.

Date: 2020-02-11 02:41 am (UTC)
minoanmiss: Minoan lady holding recursive portrait (Recursion)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
know from my melanin-rich friend who's had to deal with all kinds of racism at work how people will STILL say you started it--no matter how blandly pleasant you try to be.

*alughs bitterly* True, true.

what I mean is that I don't want to be saying (metaphorically speaking) to people "I expect the worst from you." I want to leave people room to be--and in fact, insist with my behavior that they *will* be--their best possible selves.

*nod* In a weird contrapositive way I have to do this too, or rather, act like it, because the *moment* someone like me hints that I might not trust that the other person is Benevolent In All Ways, they may take that Dastardly Insult as an excuse to become terrible. But/and I also see what you mean here, that you want to approach situations openheartedly in the expectation that being trusted will generate trust from the other person. I try to, and try to try to, do that when dealing with people I don't have as much to fear from.

Date: 2020-02-10 09:47 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Viktor & Mordecai)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I mean practically the definition of "privilege" is that people behave well toward you.

I don't think of it necessarily in terms of courtesy, because you can always get static from strangers unless you are wealthy enough to insulate yourself entirely, but I do agree that being able to trust that you won't be cheated or refused or abused in the process of a business transaction is a major component of it. Just that baseline of daily security.

... I'm always stuck thinking, I have all this privilege. How should I use it well?

What comes to mind?

Date: 2020-02-11 12:41 am (UTC)
sovay: (Viktor & Mordecai)
From: [personal profile] sovay
What are your thoughts?

Somewhat inchoate? I like your plan of amplification; I think that does matter and I think it's useful. There are sweeping societal changes that need to be made and then there's all the small stuff in the meantime. For example, on the theory of daily security, if you have the ability to make an interaction happen safely for someone, I would consider that useful. At the moment I feel desperately futile on the sweeping change front, so I try to be a person who can extend some safety in the small things.

Date: 2020-02-10 09:42 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Viktor & Mordecai)
From: [personal profile] sovay
[ETA: it's not a rhetorical question. Maybe they would be.]

It is really difficult to leave an interaction that went fine for you knowing that it might not have gone fine for someone else. It's like being reminded of the overlapping consensus nature of reality in ways that are a lot less fun than, say, different people's art.

Date: 2020-02-11 02:42 am (UTC)
minoanmiss: Naked young fisherman with his catch (Minoan Fisherman)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
It's like being reminded of the overlapping consensus nature of reality in ways that are a lot less fun than, say, different people's art.

Well and truly said. You have shaken me all the way down to the seven-year-old I was when I realized that I got my religious holidays off from school while my Jewish friends had to ask for them, and some of the teachers frowned when they asked.

Date: 2020-02-10 10:36 pm (UTC)
mallorys_camera: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mallorys_camera
That's a tough one.

I haven't yet begun boycotting Trump-supporting business owners myself, but I'm getting close. A little voice keeps telling me to look beyond the polarization to the commonalities: Look! You both breathe oxygen! Look! You both have opposable thumbs!

Is there some way I can get that little voice to STFU? 😃

Date: 2020-02-11 12:42 am (UTC)
sovay: (I Claudius)
From: [personal profile] sovay
And yet I didn't leave.

Do you think you should have?

Date: 2020-02-11 12:54 am (UTC)
sovay: (I Claudius)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I'm not sure--I think maybe I doubt?--there's a hard-and-fast should in this situation.

If it helps, I'm not asking for a blanket resolution. I couldn't tell from your phrasing if, in this particular situation, you thought you should have.

Date: 2020-02-11 12:59 am (UTC)
sovay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sovay
My response is as much me talking to myself as you--I've run through so many scenarios and variables--if I was a computer, I'd be overheating.

It is not my intent to add to the meltdown. Question withdrawn.

Date: 2020-02-11 01:29 am (UTC)
sovay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I'm fine, honestly, and your question didn't bother me.

Okay! It is not always easy to tell over the internet.

Date: 2020-02-11 02:43 am (UTC)
minoanmiss: Minoan maiden, singing (Singing Minoan Maiden)
From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
*fans you*

Date: 2020-02-11 11:58 am (UTC)
mallorys_camera: (Default)
From: [personal profile] mallorys_camera
Confederate flags are very big throughout the Southern Tier part of upstate New York. I'm not sure what the symbolism is. Not sympathy with the 11 states that seceded from the Union in 1860, I'm pretty sure. I think it has something to do with love for tattoos and heavy metal bands.
Edited Date: 2020-02-11 11:58 am (UTC)

Date: 2020-02-11 09:30 pm (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
What a post and what a thread.

I think I'll do an offshoot post.

Date: 2020-02-12 04:04 pm (UTC)
rimturse: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rimturse
This is such an odd thing to a Dane like me. We don't do bumper stickers, caps, or anything like that. In fact, I don't even know who most of my family and all of my friends vote for.

Date: 2020-02-12 04:18 pm (UTC)
rimturse: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rimturse
Nope, sports jerseys are usually only worn in public at the games, except if you're talking about children. You don't see soldiers in military uniform either, unless they haven't had an opportunity to change.

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