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From The Snow Queen

No one was at home except an old Lapp woman, who was cooking fish over a whale-oil lamp. The reindeer told her Gerda's whole story, but first he told his own, which he thought was much more important. Besides, Gerda was so cold that she couldn't say a thing.

"Oh, you poor creatures," the Lapp woman said, "you've still got such a long way to go. Why, you will have to travel hundreds of miles into the Finmark. For it's there that the Snow Queen is taking a country vacation, and burning her blue fireworks every evening. I'll jot down a message on a dried codfish, for I haven't any paper. I want you to take it to the Finn woman who lives up there. She will be able to tell you more about it than I can."
Translation
(there are many, and they vary in interesting ways,**
but this is the one I remember from childhood)

I cooked with a salted codfish last night. It was the third time I'd done so. The first two times, I used small pieces of salted fish that came in a little box, all skinned and practically deboned. This time I used salted cod that came in a bag.

I opened the bag and unfolded almost a complete fish, with skin and fins and a tale, all crusted in salt, and it was so beautiful, I can't even say, and if I had wanted to write a message to my magic-wielding sister up where the Northern Lights dance, I could have, on the flank of this fish. I wish I had taken a photo--you'll just have to believe me.

Not my fish, but similar enough



**For instance, those "blue fireworks" are translated as "Bengal lights," and the whale-oil lamp as a "train lantern" over here. ("Bengal lights" burn with a blue flame and, so the internet tells me, made from "nitre, sulphur, and the black sulphide of antimony"--isn't it grand to live in this information age?)

Date: 2018-11-19 06:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
I opened the bag and unfolded almost a complete fish, with skin and fins and a tale, all crusted in salt, and it was so beautiful, I can't even say, and if I had wanted to write a message to my magic-wielding sister up where the Northern Lights dance, I could have, on the flank of this fish.

Yay!

Date: 2018-11-20 12:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] osprey_archer
I hope you do! I'm curious to see what a message written on salt cod looks like - and what you would use to write it.

Date: 2018-11-19 11:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mount_oregano
Salt cod -- bacalao -- is a delicacy in Spain. I loved it when I lived there.

Date: 2018-11-21 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mount_oregano
"Bacalao" is the Spanish word. It's "bacalhau" in Portuguese. And in Spanish, the person who "cuts the bacalao" is the one who "wears the pants in the family."

There are so many wonderful things to make with bacalao. A restaurant in Lisbon boasts of cooking it a different way every day of the year. I have a 40-page recipe book from Spain. My favorite, which I used to make for Good Friday, is a salad. Ingredients:

bacalao, lightly cooked and cooled, in pieces. You don't need much.
arugula (this is key, it's like magic with bacalao)
spring onions, sliced
orange, in pieces
orange juice and lemon juice
olive oil
salt
pepper
hard-boiled eggs, cut in quarters

Arrange it all pretty on a platter.

Date: 2018-11-23 04:18 pm (UTC)
wayfaringwordhack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wayfaringwordhack
That sounds delicious!

Date: 2018-11-20 02:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomdreams
The bengal lights recipe is 2/3 of blackpowder. I bet it burns well!

What do you make with salted cod?

Date: 2018-11-21 02:09 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomdreams
Current road flares are made from strontium nitrate, the nitrate serving the same purpose in both, and the strontium providing the red.

Date: 2018-11-21 03:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomdreams
I admit I've never seen blue flares, and am doing some reading about them as we speak.

Date: 2018-11-21 03:25 am (UTC)
randomdreams: riding up mini slickrock (Default)
From: [personal profile] randomdreams
That implies, by the way, that they originally used arsenic sulfide (orpiment) rather than antimony sulfide. Eeeew.

Date: 2018-11-20 05:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minoanmiss
OH MY HEART. This is twice tonight people have gotten me with food related nostalgia. I remember salt cod, soaking it and flaking it and feeling through for the little bones, and its savory delicious fishy saltiness in many Jamaican dishes.

Date: 2018-11-20 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minoanmiss

Salt cod is a glorious foodstuff that shows up wherever people go by boat, I often think. It's definitely a major food item in the North Sea, and the Iberian Peninsula, and in the Caribbean due to all that trading and shipping.

Ahahah, leanring Just How Long to soak the cod is an art form.

The National Dish of Jamaica is Ackee and Saltfish -- one day I should wend my way westward and make it for you. I also really loved codfish fritters, which was codfish, scallions, tomatoes, and some thyme all chopped up and folded into a gooey batter and fried in dollops.

Date: 2018-11-21 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomdreams
I'd simply like to hear what ackee and saltfish IS!

Date: 2018-11-20 05:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amaebi
I also hope to learn Jamaican ways with bacalao.

Date: 2018-11-20 06:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minoanmiss

I shoudl go through my recipes and notes and give you a few.

Three+ tangents

Date: 2018-11-20 03:29 pm (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
I used to make bacalao, Portuguese style, during my first marriage. My current household doesn't like it, so I don't make it. I should probably try a Spanish bacalá dish with a much more soaked-and-rinsed fish, and probably starting with a whole one. I don't often see them hereabouts, though.

There are a lot of Spanishes. I think that bacalá is probably the one I've seen most often.

I have loved "The Snow Queen" since I first read it in second grade, and I particularly loved Gerda's far-northerly. trip. I knew so little about Scandinavians, not history, nor literature*, nor hearsay, and I was fascinated how different each place and person Gerda visited was. I asked my father, who so often knew so much, and he was also pretty much void.

I loved how wilder and more powerful went together.

* A few years later my enthusiasm for Tolkien led me to have a go at Snorri Sturlluson, which I probably spelled wrong, but at that time I was too dainty for it.

Fish, glorious fish

Date: 2018-11-20 05:33 pm (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
Sure, I'll transcribe it.

Re: Three+ tangents

Date: 2018-11-21 02:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomdreams
Can you read Icelandic? I got a bit of the way into danish and swedish, but icelandic utterly defeated me.

Re: Three+ tangents

Date: 2018-11-21 03:16 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] randomdreams
I misunderstood: I thought you were talking about translating Snorri Sturlson. I _think_ I know the languages [personal profile] amaebi speaks/reads/is learning.
I only learned enough to engage in very rudimentary conversation with my relatives, alas.

Date: 2018-11-23 04:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wayfaringwordhack
I have never read The Snow Queen. This is something I must rectify. Or rather I have read a version but it was an abridged retelling that had hardly a whiff of magic about it.

I have eaten salted cod in France and think I even made something once with it, earlier in my marriage, but now I can't remember exactly what. I just remember buy it and soaking it in milk in our teensy kitchen in our Paris studio apartment (studio being code for tiny, almost-1 room flat). Ah! A quick google brought it back: brandade de morue. Is that what your recipe is like? I wasn't able to open the link enough to see the full recipe without creating an account onsite.

The way I have eaten it most is in the form of acres de morue or codfish cakes. Julien's stepmom is Portugese and makes really good ones. I should ask her for her recipe.

ETA: Wanted to add a link off the Internet to give you an idea: http://wanderlustandlipstick.com/blogs/foodfreeway/2010/11/03/recipe-of-the-week-accras-de-morue/
Edited Date: 2018-11-23 04:40 pm (UTC)

Date: 2018-11-23 04:46 pm (UTC)
wayfaringwordhack: (Default)
From: [personal profile] wayfaringwordhack
Yeah, acras (or Accras, or other spellings) are tasty; they are fried: How could they not be! (Just realized that my spellcheck auto-corrected it to acres :P). I really should call Marie and get her recipe.

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