Readercon

Jul. 15th, 2018 04:40 pm
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I haven't attended Readercon since it switched venues, but it was nice to be back--even if the hotel is located on an Alcatraz-like hill that makes leaving it on foot feel like a jailbreak (... actually maybe that makes it kind of fun? Maybe the truth is I had fun making my getaways now and then.)

I was there for the second half of Friday, all of Saturday, and Sunday morning. I missed many things I would like to have heard, but I heard and participated in many fun things. Here are a few highlights:


On Friday evening, I got to help playtest a role-playing game that Carlos Hernandez (author of The Assimilated Cuban's Guide to Quantum Santería and spouse of the inestimable C.S.E. Cooney) is creating. The last role-playing game I played was Dungeons & Dragons, and that was when I was in high school, so this was a novel and fun experience for me, and good for Carlos, he said, because he wanted to know how inexperienced players would react. The game involved cards with evocative names ("chains," "the palace," "hunger," "treasure," and "empathy" were what I got) and accompanying images--here's hoping the game makes it to the light of day!


The highlight of Saturday was a panel titled "Defying Colonial Notions of Authenticity," whose panelists (Phenderson Djèli Clark, Darcie Little Badger, José Pablo Iriarte, Ken Liu, and Pablo Defendini) talked with passion, cogency, and nuance on the topic. "Did you learn anything new?" a friend asked, and I realized, it wasn't so much that I learned something new--it's a topic I'm interested in, and I think about it and listen to others talking about it a fair amount--as it was that people expressed the points so clearly. Like Ken Liu pointing out that diversity is a collective trait; one character can't be "diverse," and if you try to make one character stand for a whole group, you're likely to have a messed-up portrayal. Or Darcie Little Badger bringing up the problem of different opinions within a group itself about what a good portrayal is, and Pablo Defendini bringing up the question of language. It was an absorbing conversation.


On Sunday I got to be on a very lively panel on expletives. It's great when panel participants build on what one another say, and it's great when the audience joins in in a positive way, and that's what happened. One audience member told a hilarious story about when his son started playing games online. The son's language got much fouler, and the dad told him the only swears he was allowed to use were ones he made up himself... and then the dad got called in to school because the kid was upsetting his classmates by calling them "fig-pickers." Pretty much everyone in the room decided that was an epithet worth keeping.

There were other highlights, more personal ones (lovely conversations, meeting people--that kind of thing), but I think I'll gush about those to the people in question. For now, let me leave you with this fun image from one of escape-from-Alcatraz walks. The Virgin and Child, attended by a Swan and Seal.
madonna and child, attended by swan and seal

Date: 2018-07-15 11:48 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Rotwang)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I was there for the second half of Friday, all of Saturday, and Sunday morning.

I did not see anywhere near as much of you as I would have liked, but I am glad at least we passed in the corridors!

P.S. "Fig-pickers" is great.

Date: 2018-07-16 12:19 am (UTC)
sartorias: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
Fig-pickers!

Glad you had an excellent time.

Date: 2018-07-16 01:37 am (UTC)
zyzyly: (Default)
From: [personal profile] zyzyly
Sounds like a great experience. I love "Fig-pickers"

Date: 2018-07-16 10:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] shewhomust
The Virgin and Child, attended by a Swan and Seal

Is this a well-known piece of local mythology? Or a story waiting to be told?

Date: 2018-07-16 02:07 pm (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
A stony nativity. A pre-pieta.

Fig-pickers is hilarious-- I wonder if he was influences by cake-sniffers? And Alexei Panshin tossed off a fell-picker when explaining realism and nominalism.

Date: 2018-07-16 09:41 pm (UTC)
amaebi: black fox (Default)
From: [personal profile] amaebi
"Cake-sniffers" comes from Lemony Snicket-- it was name-calling denigration by the odious Carmelita Spatz.

I think "fell-pickers" was from the second of Alexei Panshin's Anthony Villers series, The Thurb Revolution. He says something like "If being called a [something] or a fell-picker just makes you laugh, you may be a nominalist." I eventually found Panshin's characterizations of realism/nominalism useful, but only after I learned in another way. :D

Date: 2018-07-16 08:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] petrichor_pirate
I like "fig-pickers" as an example because it shows how cursing is really so relative. It's dependent on tone and delivery but also partially whether you're trying to curse at someone or not.

I say "crap-doodles" when something happens that's kinda bad but easily fixable. More of progression along the "oops" spectrum.

Date: 2018-07-16 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] petrichor_pirate
Hahahaha I hadn't connected them but that's the most hilarious image.

Date: 2018-07-17 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] khiemtran
"Authenticity" is a tricky one... I think that just as no one person can be "diverse", neither can one character be "inauthentic". Because who is to say that in any given group, there isn't one outlier who does their own thing.

Date: 2018-07-17 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] khiemtran
I like the mechanic example! Another thing that comes to mind is when a friend asked a group of us "have you ever met a John Smith?" It turned out that none of us had, even though at one point it was literally the most common English name combination (it's not anymore).

Date: 2018-07-27 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] khiemtran
That's an interesting question... Looking online, it looks like it might be "James Smith", at least in the US. See https://blogs.ancestry.com/cm/calling-james-smith-10-most-common-first-and-surname-combinations/

And, no, I haven't met a James Smith either...

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