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The ninja girl has been teaching English in Japanese public schools for ten years now. She's got an American mother (me) and an English father (Wakanomori), and she's lived in both places, though primarily in the United States. It means she's familiar with words and songs and games from both England and the United States... but native English-speaking English teachers in the Japanese schools come from other parts of the Anglosphere as well, and it can make for interesting conversations when they get together, as when a teacher from Jamaica was talking about a playground game called, in Jamaica, "Chinese skip." A teacher from South Africa recognized the game, but said they called it "Chinese elastic."

"I didn't know what they were talking about," said the ninja girl.

"I think I do," I said. "We had a game we used to play with a large loop of elasticized cord. Two people would stand inside the loop, about three or four feet apart so the loop was pulled taut at their ankles, making a little elastic rectangle. Then a third person would stand in between them and do a jumping pattern, landing inside, outside, and on the elastic. We called it 'Chinese jump-rope.'"1

But neither in her years of school in Massachusetts, nor in her year at a school in Dorset had the ninja girl encountered the game. Maybe it fell out of fashion in the United States and was never a thing in England? Or maybe it's just chance of where she happened to live?

On the other hand, both the Jamaican English teacher and the ninja girl knew the song "I'm a Little Teapot," but the South African English teacher didn't.

All of them--including a Filipino English teacher--knew "The Itsy Bitsy Spider," but they had different hand motions to go with it.

1 We both acknowledged how all these names are examples of that naming convention where you stick some faraway/other/foreign group-name on a thing to show that it's different from another, common, this-is-how-WE-do-it version of it, or something like it.

Date: 2024-12-12 05:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] raven
Ahh I played that! In the north of England in the early nineties, we just called it "playing elastics".

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Date: 2024-12-12 05:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] athenais
Wowwwwww I haven't thought of Chinese jumprope in decades and decades! But yes, I remember playing it. It's always fun to find out what games other countries' kids played and what they call it if it's one we know.

Date: 2024-12-12 05:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mallorys_camera
Do kids even jump rope anymore? Admittedly, I don't spend a great deal of time watching pre-teens playing outside, but I don't think I've seen jump ropes in many decades.

Date: 2024-12-12 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
"I think I do," I said. "We had a game we used to play with a large loop of elasticized cord. Two people would stand inside the loop, about three or four feet apart so the loop was pulled taut at their ankles, making a little elastic rectangle. Then a third person would stand in between them and do a jumping pattern, landing inside, outside, and on the elastic. We called it 'Chinese jump-rope.'"

I know this game, but I don't think it was called Chinese anything! I saw it in elementary school. It is familiar enough that I may have played it, although if so not often: I know I also read about it. That's so interesting.

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From: [personal profile] cmcmck
I don't think I saw it growing up in the south of England.

Date: 2024-12-12 06:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] osprey_archer
I don't think I've ever heard of the elastic rope jumping game under any name! Fascinating.

I'd love to know all the different hand motions for "The Itsy-Bitsy Spider." These little variations are so interesting.

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Date: 2024-12-12 06:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minoanmiss

I haven't heard of Chinese Skip in DECADES and I only heard of it in Jamaica!

Date: 2024-12-12 06:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gingicat
Neat!

Apropos of nothing, there's a version of "Itsy Bitsy Spider" that can be sung to the tune of "The Mary Ellen Carter."

Date: 2024-12-12 06:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sartorias
Oh, yes, Chinese jump rope! It had gone totally out of fashion when I was a teacher, but we used to play it as kids.

Date: 2024-12-12 10:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] threemeninaboat
Yup. Chinese jump rope, Denver, 1980s.

Date: 2024-12-12 11:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] teenybuffalo
Currently 43 years old, read about "Chinese jumprope" somewhere in my early childhood (possibly in one of those "fun games that children play" anthologies that were about ten years out of date at that point) but never played it or met anyone who did it. I remember being envious of people with access to an enormous elastic band or elastic-made-of-other-elastics -- it sounded like fun.

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From: [personal profile] kayre
We played Chinese Jump Rope in my childhood in Ohio, late 1960s. My daughter is 40 and never heard of it until now.

Date: 2024-12-13 08:43 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lokifan
I'm English and have never heard of this game - 90s kid who grew up near London.

It's one of the fun things about teaching abroad, the different native Englishes :D When I taught in Vietnam we got competitive about it, too, and tried to get the kids to pronounce zebra our own preferred ways!

Date: 2024-12-13 11:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] smokingboot
Big thing in the South West of England when I was a kid, we called it "Cats Cradle.' That was also the name we gave to the equivalent with your hands.
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Date: 2024-12-13 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I saw this on a friend's page. Since you're collecting anecdata, I'm 40 and played Chinese jump rope as an elementary schooler in California.

Date: 2024-12-16 01:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amaebi
Coming in all ancient at 64, it got some play in my childhood, though it was dominated by jump rope, four square, and tag. I don't know whether a contemporary told me the name "Chinese jump rope," or I learned it from children's books. I was traumatized by double Dutch and never played, not that I was invited.

Date: 2024-12-20 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] light_of_summer
Chiming in late (but long 😏):

I played Chinese Jumprope in elementary school in northern Northern California, in the late 1960s. It was one of the fads in toys and games for school recesses that seemed to go through my school every few months. (There were also outside-of-school toy/game fads in my neighborhood.)

I imagine most of these fads were driven by new toys coming to market, and the "I want one, too!" phenomemon, after the first ones appeared at school. But not always—

When I was in sixth grade, my school had a surprisingly co-ed fad for jump-rope, where we lined up to each take one running jump through the long rope that two kids were turning. The jump ropes in question were longstanding school equipment that inexplicably gained wider popularity for awhile, as distinguished from the Chinese Jumpropes, Clackers, and other toys/equipment fads that were brought from home. (The other portable school-owned recess equipment consisted of tetherballs, foursquare/dodge/kickballs, and basketballs, I think. And maybe softballs and bats?)

A couple of related thoughts:

  • I think I still own a book (in a box, somewhere) called One Potato, Two Potato: the Secret Education of American Children. It's been a long time since I read it, but I remember it as being quite interesting.

  • In kind of a reversal of the racialized naming thing, Holly Tannen used to perform a horrifyingly funny song that I think she learned from children, called "The Dirty Old Man from [country]." In concert, Holly sang "Fresno" instead of "[country]." And she would pair it with an old English folk song that had probably been its ancestor—tune and story much the same, but details hilariously altered. Ah, the folk process!

    Footnote #1: In case "Fresno" is unfamiliar, it's the name of California's most populous inland city, surrounded by and related to land used for agriculture. I think the venue(s) where I heard the song were about three hours' driving time from Fresno.

    Footnote #2: The old folksong has many names and versions, so that it's considered a "family" of songs. It goes back to at least the 1700s, and is often called something like "The Old Man's Courtship" or "Old Shoes and Leggin's."

    Footnote #3: The song might be seen as ageist and sexist (as well as racist in some versions), but it's hard to blame a probably-teenaged girl for not wanting to marry someone who was probably at least two generations older and who had thoroughly unattractive habits...
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    OK, I'll stop rambling, now.
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