asakiyume: (shaft of light)
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Apparently I never shared these pictures here! But what better day than Valentine's Day, when people give chocolate to one another.

As you no doubt know, a lot of chocolate is produced using cacao that's obtained and grown in ways that are exploitative and bad for the environment. What I saw, though, was small family production--probably just for local consumption.

Like coffee, cacao *can* be a very beneficial crop to cultivate because it can grow in the shade of larger trees. It can be a forest-preserving crop. (Of course that's not what Big Chocolate encourages.)

Here is a small cacao tree with some cacao pods on it.



If you cut open one of those pods, this is what you see. The milky fruit is **delicious** (and tastes nothing like chocolate. It's full of flavor and reminds me slightly of a mangosteen.) What makes us chocolate are the pips--the beans--in the center of the fruits. Each pod has a bunch of these, as you can tell from how the fruit is packed in there.




Here are pips, drying in the sun. Apparently the recommended process is to ferment the beans and fruit together and then to dry them. So these have probably been fermented. (Obviously if you do that, you don't get to enjoy the fruit!) Some farmers, though, just dry the pips without fermenting them first. According to the article I read, that results in the pips being "overly bitter and astringent." But if you're growing just for your own purposes, you can do as you please. So maybe these pips haven't been fermented.



I had no chocolate when I was there, but my tutor often has chocolate con pan for her breakfast, by which she means hot chocolate: cocoa powder added to boiling water, with then as much milk powder and sugar added as you like. I've tried preparing it that way: it's nice!

Date: 2024-02-14 06:20 pm (UTC)
sartorias: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
Wow, those photos are interesting. I wonder what it smells like. If there are any chocolate notes.

Date: 2024-02-14 06:24 pm (UTC)
sartorias: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
Yeah, me, too!

Date: 2024-02-14 06:37 pm (UTC)
sartorias: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
Ah, yep! (I did not know those two were related at all!)

Date: 2024-02-14 08:59 pm (UTC)
ranunculus: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ranunculus
I had the pleasure once of eating the fruit and seeing the process of removing the pips. I do not remember any chocolate notes to the fruit. The one I had tasted lemony in a really nice sweet way. REALLY good.

Date: 2024-02-14 10:21 pm (UTC)
sartorias: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sartorias
That does sound delicious!

Date: 2024-02-14 07:31 pm (UTC)
sovay: (Haruspex: Autumn War)
From: [personal profile] sovay
The milky fruit is **delicious** (and tastes nothing like chocolate. It's full of flavor and reminds me slightly of a mangosteen.)

Huh. I wonder if it is also caffeinated. If not, I could eat it.

Date: 2024-02-15 12:15 am (UTC)
sovay: (Silver: against blue)
From: [personal profile] sovay
I would love for you to be able to eat cacao fruit.

Thank you! I'd love to try it.

Date: 2024-02-15 01:36 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] squirrelitude
A little correction -- it's cyanide, not arsenic, that's in the seeds of the stone fruits (and some others in the rose family, such as apples).

Date: 2024-02-15 11:43 am (UTC)
squirrelitude: (Default)
From: [personal profile] squirrelitude
It's an *extremely* common misconception, if that helps. :-)

Date: 2024-02-14 08:40 pm (UTC)
rachelmanija: A plate of sliced oranges (Fruit: sliced oranges)
From: [personal profile] rachelmanija
I want to eat cacao fruit.

Date: 2024-02-14 11:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mallorys_camera
Max and I went to a chocolate museum in Guatemala where we got the opportunity to process the cacao fruit into confectionary chocolate, and it was very fun. 😀

Date: 2024-02-14 11:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] osprey_archer
So delightful that you got to try cacao fruit! And so interesting that it doesn't taste of chocolate at all - although as you say, peach fruit has none of the cyanide in peach pips, etc., so really it shouldn't be surprising that different parts of plant have different flavors...

Date: 2024-02-15 12:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] purlewe
I loved that you shared these both here and Bsky. Thanks!!!

Date: 2024-02-15 01:16 am (UTC)
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I'd love to try that fruit some day!

Date: 2024-02-15 01:37 am (UTC)
squirrelitude: (Default)
From: [personal profile] squirrelitude
A local chocolatier here was selling "miel de cacao" truffles -- the cacao pulp is boiled down to produce a tangy, sticky syrup. It was pleasant, similar to tamarind. I'd love to try the fresh pulp some time, though...

Date: 2024-02-15 10:05 am (UTC)
lilysea: Tree hugger (Tree hugger)
From: [personal profile] lilysea
I am 100% here for growing chocolate/coffee

in the shade of taller trees

that creates wildlife corridors

so that birds and other wildlife

can make it from [larger habitat A] to [larger habitat B]

Date: 2024-02-15 11:24 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] heleninwales
Thanks for the fascinating information about the cacao fruit. I had no idea such a thing existed. Interestingly, the way your tutor made her hot chocolate is pretty much the way we traditionally made the cocoa drink in the UK. I still make it that way, but with fresh milk rather than powered.

Date: 2024-02-15 07:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] minoanmiss

Oh you've reminded me of my childhood summers in Jamaica. I still remember being so SURPRISED that the pulp around cacao seeds tasted like a tropical fruit and nothing like chocolate.

Date: 2024-02-16 02:22 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yamamanama
"Vamlumtimes is serious times."
–Teen Girl Squad

Date: 2024-02-16 06:41 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amaebi
We are major fans of Lydgate Farms on Kauai, a small craft establishment where they also produce vanilla and honey (sweet with nectar from foxtail palms) and grow lots of varied tropical fruits and odd flyers like, for example, papyrus, just for the interest of it. Ethical green chocolate FTW!
Edited Date: 2024-02-16 06:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2024-02-18 10:40 am (UTC)
med_cat: (SH education never ends)
From: [personal profile] med_cat
Fascinating, thanks!

Date: 2024-02-19 09:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] smokingboot
Thank you for these photos, I am fascinated by the deep purple and brown of the pods, they make me want to paint them. Intriguing re the milky fruit and pips. I have never tasted mangosteen. Are they at all like Cherimoya?

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