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asakiyume ([personal profile] asakiyume) wrote2016-09-12 03:30 pm

Her Britannic Majesty







The healing angel, who longtime readers of this blog will remember as a child of 9,10, 11... is soon to embark upon new adventures. Rather than going straight to college, he's going to try to work for a bit in the land of his birth--England. To that end, he had to renew his British passport, not used since he was a baby. (He's used his American one several times since then.)

Today it arrived, and wow, the words at the front are redolent with the fragrance of Empire:

Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance, and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary.

Requests and requires. Without let or hindrance! It's the ontological opposite of Movie!Gandalf's "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!"

ETA: The American equivalent:

The Secretary of State of the United States of America hereby requests all whom it may concern to permit the citizen/national of the United States named herein to pass without delay or hindrance and in case of need to give all lawful aid and protection.

America, up your game! Where is your require??


[identity profile] pdlloyd.livejournal.com 2016-09-12 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)

That is so cool! Requests and requires, indeed. I almost, maybe, had the chance to have my first child in EnglandĀ  (would I have been allowed to fly six weeks before the due date?), but opted instead for delaying our travel. So, he got a five month tour as an infant, instead.


I think it's wonderful that Healing Angel is getting this year to travel and work before heading off to college. There's just so much value to taking that extra time.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-12 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If he goes at all! We'll see what the future holds for him.

Meanwhile, I also notice that the US passport limits the aid folks are requested to give to what's lawful. No such limitation in the UK passport. GIVE THE BEARER ALL THE AID. ALL OF IT.

[identity profile] pdlloyd.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's a marvelous attitude.

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2016-09-12 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
We don't have a monarchy, heh. That's royal diplomat-speak.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-12 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
It's also really old-school in its wording--like the King James Bible as opposed to, say, the New International translation--which is probably because it was created two centuries ago, and why update something with as much prestige and majesty as that? Whereas I can imagine people tinkering with the US text in each new administration (maybe not that frequently--but frequently).

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2016-09-12 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup!
ckd: A small blue foam shark sitting on a London Underground map (london underground)

[personal profile] ckd 2016-09-12 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Queen Elizabeth II does not have a passport. "As a British passport is issued in the name of Her Majesty, it is unnecessary for The Queen to possess one."

However, the British Secretary of State and the American Secretary of State require passports even though in both cases the request page invokes them.

According to Wikipedia the Irish passport's request page is in both Gaeilge and English (and, on mine, probably also French since it's from 2008; I'll check when I get home).

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I like the idea of the secretary of state requesting safe passage for himself, in the third person.
ckd: A small blue foam shark sitting on a London Underground map (london underground)

[personal profile] ckd 2016-09-13 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
The bad news is that in the UK's case, the relevant Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs is Boris Johnson. (The joke is that Theresa May wrote "F OFF" next to his name, and he was then given the Foreign Office job.... :-)

As for the Irish passport's request page: Wikipedia claims that the French version of the request was "discontinued in recent years". Since my 1998-issued Irish passport (hand-written at the Boston Consulate!) doesn't have the French, I think someone's definition of "recent" is more generous than mine.

(Most of the pages in that passport have been stamped "CEALAITHE /CANCELLED" from when I sent it in to get my renewal but whoever did it missed a few.)

The 2008-issued passport has all the super security features including the pin-punched picture of me.

[identity profile] cafenowhere.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
this is very interesting in a "who cuts the barber's hair?" or "the cobbler's children have no shoes" kind of way.

[identity profile] amaebi.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
So that's where Barrayar got it from.

I think everyone, or nearly everyone, should take a year working after high school.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
Do they have passports and such in that series?

(It's among the many things I haven't read--I think I read one short story in the world (it was good))

[identity profile] amaebi.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. Intergalactic context. It's something the Emperor says in issuing orders, though.

While later books and stories in the series seem to me to be Author's Own Fan Fic, I think you'd like the books a lot.

[identity profile] nipernaadiagain.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
That made me look up what my passport says. In English the message is same as for the American passport, but the word used in Estonian is more of a plea (or - the polite way to ask, that SHOULD be a plea and not demand) ... yet, it might be my own poor English skills that read "request" more as demand than as a plea.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:43 am (UTC)(link)
My sense of English "request" is that the degree to which it slides into a demand depends on the power of the asker. When the asker is more powerful than the person being asked, it is a demand (in the sense that it is not acceptable for the person being asked to decline: it is a polite way of issuing an order). When the parties are of equal power or the person asking is less powerful, then it is a very formal way of asking, and shows that the person asking has the expectation of an affirmative answer--but the [equal or more powerful] person being asked can still refuse.

[identity profile] khiemtran.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
Mine is in between: "The Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia, being the representative in Australia of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, requests all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer, an Australian Citizen, to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford him or her every assistance and protection of which he or she may stand in need."

So, the G-G is requesting I get all the assistance (that I need), but not actually requiring it.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
I like that neither the Australian nor the British passport let minor details like legality stand in the way of the aid giving, or rather, I guess I think it's a curious nicety that the US one takes pains to tell people that they aren't being asked to break the law.

And wow, Commonwealth countries get to reference the queen--of course they do, but it's cool to see. Empire! It hangs on.

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, he's got one of the new, lavishly illustrated, 'Creative Britain' ones - first one I've seen!

[identity profile] amaebi.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
And on the inside back cover, a tiny ornate cake you can actually lick.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
This actually made me laugh out loud. You have to renew your passport when you can no longer taste the cake.

[identity profile] amaebi.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
:)

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
We were admiring it! It's gorgeous.

[identity profile] lifeinroseland.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Haha. My brother has a UN password which, on the cover, simply states Let Pass, in French.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
That's an even more direct opposite for Gandalf's "You shall not pass!"

What standing does a UN passport have?

[identity profile] lifeinroseland.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Dunno. Let pass.

[identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Mine says nothing. There's just some stylised forest scenery with a swan. On the first page, a smattering of laconic text in 21 languages tells me that it's a passport. Personal information follows. The rest is a funny flipbook (http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-finish-passport-elk-1807977.gif) about an elk.

envious!

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-13 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
A flip book! That is awesome! I want a flip book! US passport, you are letting me down in MORE WAYS THAN ONE

[identity profile] wendigomountain.livejournal.com 2016-09-14 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
America's could include, "Violation of these terms and conditions may result in a good, solid carpet bombing."

[identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com 2016-09-16 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
I want to register my appreciation for your adorable Drinky Crow icon.

[identity profile] wendigomountain.livejournal.com 2016-09-16 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! :)

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-17 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It goes without saying!!

[identity profile] heliopausa.livejournal.com 2016-09-15 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
The Elk! What a winner! We get different scenes on every page, with heavy emphasis on wildlife and wide-open spaces.

[identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com 2016-09-16 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
I like that different scenes for every page means a little additional fun and a little additional security -- it's a perfect blend of function and whimsy.

[identity profile] heliopausa.livejournal.com 2016-09-18 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I hadn't thought of the security aspect. Good point. :)

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2016-09-17 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree re: the elk! And scenes of wildlife and natural beauty is similar to what's inside the US one (one page is all taken up with a bald eagle, though...)